Arial view - 50's McNair Kaserne 32nd Signal emblem

A cold war look at the former home of the 32nd Signal Battalion, the 201st Signal Company, the 17th Signal Battalion, and some other groups.
 

The 60s

In the 1960's:
The Vietnam war was warming up.
Germany readopted the draft.
12 people escape via a tunnel under the Berlin Wall.
border guards kill 18-year-old Peter Fechter, as he attempts to cross the Berlin Wall into West Berlin.
And Jutta Kleinschmidt, German rally driver was born.

McNair Kaserne, meanwhile, was still home to the 299th Combat Engineer Battalion and the 317th Combat Engineer battalion, from 1954 until 1963.
299th Crest

62 Ewing 62 Love 65 Toomey 66 Castino 68 Hill
1962

The following 5 images are courtesy of Ed Ewing.
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1962 image
Photo of part of the east entrance.
The 201st building will soon be built in the left side of this photo.
Some trees from Stadt park can be seen in the distance.
Photo taken from the top floor (I think) of the North side of the kaserne.
1962 image
Photo of east entrance.
The headquarters company building is in the rear.
The south mess hall and part of the south side of Mcnair on the right.
1962 image
Photo of parts of the south and west sides of McNair.
Photo taken from the same vantage point as the photo on the left.
1962 image
Photo of the west side of McNair.
Photo taken from just north of the east entrance, about where the 201st building will be located.
1962 image
Photo of parts of the east, south and west sides of McNair.
Photo taken from just north of the east entrance, about where the 201st building will be located.

1962

The following images are courtesy of William Love.

William writes:
Hello Doug, My name is William Love, I was stationed at McNair Sept 1961 thru Sept 1963 with the 299th Combat Engineer Battalion The 299th was at McNair from 1954 thru 1963 when the Battalion was moved to Ft Gordon, Georgia. I was a Crane Operator in H.Q. & H.Q. Company. We worked with the Germans on local projects and built pontoon bridges at Campo Pond at Hanau and on The Rhine river all for training the grunts in the line companies hated it because it was hard physical work but for me it was easy just stayed on my butt and pulled levers and pushed pedals.
The 299th had the South half of McNair and The 317th Combat Engineer Battalion was on the North side they moved to Eschborn after we left.

Will Love McNair Kaserne
Survivor
I did enjoy my stay at Hoechst and McNair
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299th Crest
The 299th crest, I assume.
2005 Cold War Times article
This is a 2003 Cold War Times article describe the 299th role during the 1959-1961 era.
It's a good read.
1962 image
Mr. Love in front of a crane.
It's hard to make out but I think Mr. Love was a Spec-4 back then.
1962 image
Photo is titled "Army CAMPO POND GERMANY 2".
It looks like they are building a pontoon bridge.

1962 image
Photo is titled: "Army Crane's Rhine River 1962".
This photo shows the massive effort it took to erect a path across the Rhine river.
This was done to practice the making of a pontoon bridge should the bad guys bomb the real bridges.
I wonder how the German government worked with the problem of a pontoon bridge blocking water traffic on the normally busy Rhine river? I guess they just dealt with it while it was erected and the Army split it apart a bit when we didn't need it.

1962 2 1/2 ton trucks.
Some of the 2 1/2 ton trucks used in 1962.
For some deja-vue, have a look at the same type of truck being used in the 1970's.
I'll do you one better. I saw these same type of trucks being transported on the interstate for the Army not 2 days ago!
There have been a few changes along the way. Look at the difference in headlight location between the left truck and the rest of the trucks for example.

1962 image
This photo was taken from in front of the theater, looking south at the west end of McNair.
The library building can be seen on the left.
Note the guard shack in the middle of the photo and the tall fence along the road on the right of the photo.


1965

Why don't I have many photos of McNair from the 60's?
I think one reason is because there were just not that many affordable cameras back then. I know that most of my photos came about from an inpulse buy of a Kodak Instamatic 110 camera. It was cheap and it got the job done. Little did i know then how much those photos I took would mean to me now.
Which brings me to Mr. Toomey. He has not sent me any photos from that time, but he did regale me with many a written memory. I decided to ask permission to archive his memories here.
He said yes...

Larry Toomey

Arial view - 50's

Hi, Doug. I had never seen an aerial of McNair until a few minutes ago. Coordinating that image with what my memory remembers, I cannot equate what I remember of the gates with what the aerial shows. The motor pool looks different, like it is further back. I don't remember buildings between what was the barracks for the medical unit sharing residence with us and the "Seven Steps to Hell" unit sharing residence with us which were in the same wing'(in fact which might have been the same unit) and the motor pool.
We didn't have a "laundry mat", a modular shell such as construction management uses for their offices on work sites. We had a dry cleaner/tailor and we had laundry call once a week for bed linen, fatigues, socks, towels, winter dress shirts and summer dress khakis. Though we so seldom used dress clothes, it was just as easy to take them to the dry cleaner/tailor.
I don't remember a bowling alley, but I never went bowling. I think I remember we had one, but I only remember from the perspective of knowing about it. My memory of it is that it was over by the NCO/CO clubs, USO and movie theatre. I don't remember the field as it looks here, looks like farming going on there, at the left/top of the image. At the time, those fields were just overgrown weeds. Those apartment buildings might have been there, I remember apartments like that being there, about the same view. I was on my way somewhere cutting across those fields, apartment buildings (the same ones?) off to my right I believe, and I heard this commotion going on off left in the weeds off the path. I look over and a guy and girl were having a go. I don't know how far along they were, they had their clothes on. But they could have been seen from the apartments. The railroad tracks are still there, but that entrance face of the building and street looks different. I don't remember that sculpted configuration of the street, that little half circle roadway in front of the gate.
Rooms look as dingy. Same gray paint on bottom half, beige on top half. 11 foot ceilings? One photo of a guy near his wall locker bending over into his foot locker, yeah,that gives an image of the configuration of the room. Some of the pics of the rooms look the same, some look greatly improved. I still have dreams about the rooms. I don't remember having beer in the room, or the nice furniture that seems to be in some of the rooms. We had bunks. No easy chairs, no end tables. Living conditions almost look like a college dorm or a non-campus dormitory for single people. We never had women.
Headquarters Company was in the wing on the bottom left but I don't remember it being a separate building as it seems to be in the photo. I don't remember 5 companies being with the 32nd. We had HQ Company, A and B. All the companies except HQ had at least 4 platoons, maybe 5. Well, if there is a fourth floor, I guess there was a C company. That would make 4 companies. Although, I'm beginning to think now only 3 floors, and two companies (not involving HQ) were on 1 floor. I don't think there were any companies on the first floor on the side of the building at top of photo. All that was as I said Post Office, PX, Tailor, etc. I can't believe that the kaserne has been turned into an apartment building. I can't envision the rehabbing effort, physically or logistically, to make it so on such an old building. Why did they not tear it down and construct new?
Hmmmm, the view of the shoe tree. Is that from the second floor wing?---which would be upper left corner of pic, overlooking those fields. At the time, those fields were just wild overgrown weeds. If it is, I was in that room for about 4 months. TDYd to TAC-Team, a first response commo squad. Otherwise my proper room of five guys overlooked the Quad from the second floor, I think it was just to the left of the entrance into the Quad.
TAC-Team established earliest communications at a field site, or at an isolated emergency field site when there was a disaster level situation (we had these individual alternative sites so that if a natural disaster or enemy attack occurred, it wouldn't wipe out all communication which might have been located in one spot, just like they have contingency plans for the President, VP, Cabinet Members in Washington, everyone goes to a diverse location to separate the leadership so we have something instead of annihilating all of our eggs in one basket), while awaiting arrival of permanent installation and Wire-Ops people. If we went on scheduled maneuvers, Battalion might move out at 3 AM, we preceded them to the field maneuvers site leaving at 2 AM. We also had unexpected drills that they didn't have. My mobile commo unit--a 1-1/4-ton with two 555-557FM radios, and a single larger FM radio and commercial SSB equipment for RWI patching in a hut on the truck bed ---was up on Hill 880, a site of a radio tower and restaurant. Seems it was north of the area. ;We had a mobile UHF with us on a 5-ton truck, but we had two other similar units on our team---one went to an isolated location from us, one went with the battalion, who had their own similar 5-tonners and 1-1/4 tonners. UHF put up the horns, and we coordinated by running wire into them so we could shoot through their horns, but we also implemented our own vehicle-mounted aerials. We didn't need wire into a land line system---regular battalion did that when they got to field on regular maneuvers--we sighted all of our shoots until Wire-Op's set up permanently if we were in a non-emergency location, i.e., regular field maneuvers.
If I remember the second floor wing correctly, it was on upper left corner of building, but I can't tell from this photo because it doesn't look like the side of the building goes a little past the longer (north?) face of the building. Coming in from that side (not track side) of the building was the dry cleaner/tailor, px and mailroom, snack bar maybe and the mess hall. The TAC-Team squad room (where we slept, not where we recreated and played cards--we went to the NCO and USO clubs for that was, I believe, that room from which the pic of the Shoe Tree was taken. Next to it in the wing was our E5's room, and next to that on the wing was Company B office. I have to hand it to all of you guys who had the moxie to do landscape plans of the area, and the photos. My guys had other things on their minds.
Other than the TAC-Team, my whole time was with RWI. We did Phone-radio patching. Also one of the guys on my team ---Bill Mccollugh--- was radio-enabled sedan driver for the V-Corps Colonel who lived in housing across street from kaserne and worked in the Farben building. RWI worked out of the I.G. Farben Building in Frankfurt. Farben V-Corps HQ ran a civilian Ham radio link out of the first floor right in the lobby for civilian personnel wanting to talk home. Apparently they had their own wire patch RWI setup, civilian/commercial. We had free transportation from the kaserne, either a 1-1/4 tonner or a deuce-and-a-half, what ever was available. Trouble is, driver would be late or not at all. So then we were forced to take public transportation or not go to work at all.; And of course this affected the guys who came off duty, they wanted to get back to barracks, shower, sleep, maybe take a day trip. If they got back late, that ruined their plans. Not at all was not an option because our radio hut on the 7th floor of the Farben Building was manned 24-7. So we had to rotate personnel. We soon enough gave up on taking the deuce and a half to work in favor of the strassenbahn which was just about out our front door, to the right and down a little path paralleling those railroad tracks, there was a little kiosk down that path, we'd go over and get a wurst and a beer every now and then. Nice husband and wife had it. Strassenbahn went past the HauptBahnhof. We might have had to make one transfer/zumsteiger. But public transportation was so cheap despite what we were paid, it was the better option. You went to work feeling like you were going to work, a plus in nasty weather. Weather was never nasty. Snow was like fall/spring here in Philadelphia. You get an inch or two, its gone in two three days. Rainy got a little depressing, adding to the darkness, being in a northern attitude where the sun wasn't above the horizon as long as Philadelphia. What was nasty was doing 70 miles an hour on the autobahn into town in the dark or with the cold whipping under the canvas on the back of a deuce and half, wet fog or rain blowing in adding to the cold.
My standard crew was a crew of 4 or 5. Once in awhile we had six or seven. But they didn't last. I'll tell you why. My basic crew consisted of Ray Nakaya from Hawaii, with a degree in architecture from a college in Oregon; Gary Holst, who had a Masters degree in Oriental Studies/Philosophy, Bill McCollough, the Colonel's Driver who had a degree in classical music from a New England College and played the organ, especially at Church at home. Dave Nordang from Wisconsin, don't know what his background was. Scandinavian American guy. Good worker. We all had something in common. We all appreciated 24 on 24 off, never having any KP or motor pool or guard duty. We were such a low-manned short handed squad we never pulled any of that. Other people did our motor pool. I had KP twice in 18 months, Guard duty twice, and my crew had similar tours if not less.; That was not like the rest of the troops who every 3 weeks they were doing something. Both KP's I filled the salt shakers, both Guard duty's I was officer of the guard assistant. I didn't have any grunt duty. Anyway, other guys would come on our crew, not only did they not show up for work, or go wandering about once they got there, but by their attitude they had nothing in common with us. They didn't like the 24/7, 24 on 24 off arrangement. They would rather work their 9-1/2 hour days M-F and 5 hour Saturdays. What they wanted to talk about while we sat around on duty wasn't in our conversational dialogue. Their behavior was usually not very good, and they had no respect for us in our squad room back at the barracks. They didn't last long. Either they got disgusted with us (Good!) or we took the issue up with our CO. Either way, they were outta there.
I was voice-radio operator MOS 05B20, but trained in Morse at Ft. Dix. Never trained in voice until I got to Germany, and what training did I need?--- It was like talking on a phone, do people need to be trained to talk on a phone? Never used Morse Code in Germany.
I arrived at 32nd Signal in October 1965 and rotated back to the States April 1967. It seems the oldest vets on these sites of the 32nd go only back as far as 1985. That is because the internet started in the 1990s, and all of you younger fellows grew up with the internet and computers in a different way than what my generation did. Because of when the internet became publicly available my fellow soldiers who were there are disenfranchised from being on the rolls of such sites. Not through any fault of people who made these sites, but as I said, computer and internet availability and significance is different for your crew than for mine. Also, as I said earlier, my guys had other things on their mind. Vietnam. And we didn't have the social perspective that your generation did. We just wanted to do our two or three years and get out of there. From the living conditions there, and the co-ed habitation, it seems you had a more convivial atmosphere there. I still think of Ray and Gary and Bill, Buddy Peltier (since died, someone broke into his apartment, killed him), Dave Austin of Baltimore. But we didn't keep in touch. Buddy and I did until his death more than Bill and I.
Just days before I left there, there was a major alert. We had to go out into the field because a missile---this was not a drill--had been launched from Russia. We were very sober going out, because we, having some idea--some of us--what was going on in Vietnam, projected to ourselves visions of WW2 about to repeat themselves in real time. When I got home, I found out that Russia had launched an unannounced radio satellite.

Larry Toomey



1966

The following image is courtesy of Mike Castino.
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1962 image
Mike C writes: "Here is photo of me(left) and a buddy at the Trinkhalle sometime around fall of 66.
I think the place was a little bigger than today."


1968

The following images are courtesy of Richard Hill

Richard writes:
Hi Doug,
Attached are some pictures of McNair in the late 60s. I don't remember all the guys names. I was stationed at McNair from 1968 to August 1969, in the 32nd Signal Bat. Co. B , Cable and Wire Platoon. I played war games in the field, then washed and cleaned equipment
and my duce & 1/2 truck in the motor pool. I had some adventures like training at Grafenwoehr, leave at Berchesgaden, delivering mail to Stuttgart, delivering a prisoner to Frankfurt and going home on leave. Free time was drinking Henninger beer, movies and going to Hoechst. I also liked the alerts and the time in the field. After we removed the cable from my duce & 1/2, I would transport guys back to McNair in the back of the truck for showers and such. It was fun bouncing them around in the back on the dirt roads in the field. I enjoy your site, and maybe some of guys in my pictures will e-mail you, and I might find out their names.
Thanks
Richard J. Hill
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Alert_Rich_Hill_-_Ray_Kugler
Alert. Rich Hill (left), Ray Kugler (right)

A Soldiers Story Bill Sobolewski
Wire Platoon
(Yet another example that those curtains survived forever.)

Cable & wire platoon in the field (woods next to Frankfort Airport)
Cable & wire platoon in the field (woods next to Frankfort Airport).
Also known as the Rhein-Main airfield back then.

Company B 32nd SIGNAL CABLE and WIRE PLATOON
Company B 32nd signal cable & wire platoon.
Photo probable taken in the same type of tent shown in the upper left photo.
Note the mess gear hanging up on the upper left.

Motor Pool
Motor pool.
Looks like a snowball fight is brewing.

Rich Hill, Eiliott, and a few other troops.
Rich Hill, Eiliott, and a couple of other troops.
I can't tell if this is a room in McNair or not.

Rich Hill & Eiliott
Rich Hill & Eiliott.
Those curtains must be made from uranium or something. They lasted for decades.

Rich Hill & Scotty Gwyn
Rich Hill & Scotty Gwyn.
It looks like the room was on the third floor of the north wing of McNair.
Image out the window is of the south wing of McNair near the mess hall.

Rudy Sedillo
Rudy Sedillo.
Note the blue V Corps shoulder patch on the top of his sleeve.
The patch below indicates that he is a "Specialist Four" rank.

Rich Hill, Elliot, and a few other troops.
Sgt. Hill.
His patch indicated that he is a Sergeant E-5, one rank above a Specialist Four.

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